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A man walks down the street, and all of a sudden for no reason feels an urge for icecream, now the nearest Baskin Robbins is 3 blocks away and though he has too much to do to sit around and just lavish in the delieght that we all know is Baskin Robbins, he feels compelled to go, but why? He gets there and low and behold he sees the most beautiful girl he has ever seen, her car has broken down right outside the store and she needs help. Did I mention this guy just took a two week course on mechanics. He doesnt even like cars, but, he figured it would be nice to be prepared. So as you figured, he fixes the car for the girl, they get icecream, go on a walk, love everything about each other, and date for 3 months before getting married. All this because he felt like icecream at just the right time, to use his new found mechanic skills, that he wasnt even sure if he would ever use. And not only that but the girl was'nt even from this town she just happneed to be passing by the same time that our friend wanted icecream. Later on our friend found out had he gone home he would have most likely been killed by a lunatic shooting up the streets that day (seems reasonable). Anyways my point as you have no doubt gathered is, was this coincidence or providence? Are things made or meant to happen or is everything random, like two meteors hitting in the universe and we are all just bouncing off one another. I can tell you that until yesterday, I believed it was random, and I still might, Im not sure, but a really strange series of event happened that I must at least acknowledge if nothing else, might have been some sort of providence. Not that Im some zealot now, but simply, just one of those days, where your like Holy S$^ how did that happen, what are the chances. Being as there are several theories on the subject, karma, free will, destiny, fate, obviously others must have these coincidences. Really to be honest I don't know where I was going with this, I am still kind of stunned by this series of events. Maybe people like the idea of providence and fate, because hit is comforting, maybe they can't handle the idea that our lives may not have any purpose, that we are just rocks floating out in the universe. Like agent Smith said, maybe the purpose of life is to end? Because who is to say that something was meant to happen? And if it is was it God? But, if we have free will this would not be plausible. So even from a religious perspective it seems fate may not be a possibility. Even KArma depends on the actions and choices of a person. But even with all this reasoning why I should not believe, right now I am still tempted, so I would like to request if you have had a situation that seems beyond coincidence to write about it, I think it would be fascinating to see what others think on the subject.
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From:kayleigh13
Date:May 11th, 2004 05:24 pm (UTC)
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I don't think anything is beyond coincidence. I don't mean that in a skeptical or pessimistic way at all, though. In fact, I think it's even more amazing, the idea that crazy things like that can just happen because of one seemingly insignificant choice, without something like providence or fate saying it was meant to happen. In a way I think it makes them all the more special. I love hearing about really strange series of events :)
From:elrumblefish
Date:May 11th, 2004 06:36 pm (UTC)
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"And if it is was it God? But, if we have free will this would not be plausible."

Does our free will have anything to do with the girls car breaking down? Or the location of baskin robbins?

The fact of the matter is all situations come to a head by a: the things you can control, and b: the things you can't. You can control wether or not you carry an umbrella, but you can't control the weather. You can control when your oil gets changed but you can't control when you get sideswiped by a car in a busy intersection. There is very little grey area, in my opinion, on the things you have control over in your life. So how do we explain bizarre coincidences and circumstantial phenomenon? Well, just remember there is a whole realm of elements out of our hand that we have yet to explain, and when one person sees so many things come full circle that he cannot deny that it's too bizarre to be simple coincidence, then you've got to drop it all and say...

"There's something out there moving the pieces I can't control."

For example: My sister planning to come to texas last year right when my dad's kidney's failed. She happened to schedule her airline tickets the weekend of Grace's big dance competition months in advance and she and I were able to take Grace to her competition in San Antonio while Kerry stayed by Dad's side in the hospital in Midland.

Me walking away from a 50 mile an hour head on collision, and me falling asleep at the wheel and driving off an overpass on the highway, without even a bloody nose.

My step mom divorcing and moving from midland to san antonio at the exact same time as my father, sister, and I, and us just happening to run into her at one of 20 lutheran churches there.

A lot of this could easily be called luck but I've seen too much stuff just 'happen' in my life to pass it off as 'something just happening'

The truth of the matter is that we have as much proof for the idea of fate as we do for gravity, though we cannot see it, we often look back and see the bizarre situations where things have 'magically' worked out when we thought there wasn't any way for us to resolve our problems. Though fate is obviously more of a wildcard than gravity, the idea that what goes up must come down isn't very dependable 100 thousand miles above the earth.

I gotta get back to studying, but those are surely some things to think about.
From:kayleigh13
Date:May 11th, 2004 08:28 pm (UTC)
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No one's saying *simple* coincidence... I think the more choices involved by the more random people, the cooler the coincidence is. Unless it's a bad one like getting sideswiped in an intersection. But do you know what I mean? The girl made a choice and the guy who built the baskin robbins there made a choice and the guy who helped her made a choice, and maybe if one of those choices hadn't been made, none of it would have happened. Who knows what choices you make every day that effect people and events you probably never find out about.

Not to be argumentative... just sayin' :)
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From:generall84
Date:May 12th, 2004 01:38 am (UTC)
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I think KAtherine yo have stubled upon an interesting point, that it is a pleant thought that destiny is the case over random occurances. Because one does not have to do anything, its the thought that stuff will happen regardless, so I can just sit back on my couch and it will occur. Destiny is a comfort, so perhaps that is all it is a comfort.
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From:mattchufatt
Date:May 12th, 2004 12:53 am (UTC)
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"Given an infinite universe an infinite time, all things will happen, that means that every event is inevitable including those that are impossible."

Its not spectacular, its inevitable.
From:elrumblefish
Date:May 12th, 2004 01:03 am (UTC)
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DESTINY! DESTINY! THERE IS NO ESCAPE FOR ME!

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From:generall84
Date:May 12th, 2004 01:38 am (UTC)
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I'm glad you finnaly have accepted that you will shovel shiut ni luisiana for the rest of your life
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From:generall84
Date:May 12th, 2004 01:39 am (UTC)
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*shovel shit in lousiana* While I am in typing school
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From:mattchufatt
Date:May 12th, 2004 07:17 am (UTC)
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but the oracle said...

...I know I know...the oracle told me exactly what I needed to hear
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From:generall84
Date:May 12th, 2004 09:08 am (UTC)
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I'm sorry Neo, your not the one. Your destiny is to shovel shit in louisiana
From:elrumblefish
Date:May 12th, 2004 07:48 am (UTC)
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Obviously you've never seen young frankenstien, and considering you're such a funny guy, I'm kind of dissapointed
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From:generall84
Date:May 12th, 2004 01:36 am (UTC)
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maybe....
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From:joseph_shrike
Date:May 12th, 2004 08:27 am (UTC)
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Funny ha ha or funny qeer?
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From:generall84
Date:May 12th, 2004 09:09 am (UTC)
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Queer I think...
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